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Robert Moskowitz

24 Feb 2022 24 Feb '22

3:50 p.m.

It is time to upgrade systems here, and it seems that arm32 has been left in the scrap heap. Shame with all the Allwinner boards I have... Is there a list of tested aarch64 systems? I am particularly looking for ones with 4GB memory and sata support. I have never been a fan of Raspberry, and with the RPi4, you have to get at least a sata extension board. I do like it still works with 5v; 3a is no problem for me with my Anker power supply, but I suspect more will be needed once you add the sata expansion card and drive (thus whatever is in the list of other aarch64 systems should have power requirements). Anyway, as I go back before Centos1 (I believe it was called WhiteHat), I need to go with the flow. Hard to believe Centos has managed for so long. By Centos.

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Jonathan Wright

24 Feb 24 Feb

3:55 p.m.

Outside of Pi I know some testing has been done on Ampere Altra Max M128-30 but that probably doesn't help you very much in this case... On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 9:50 AM Robert Moskowitz wrote:

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It is time to upgrade systems here, and it seems that arm32 has been left in the scrap heap. Shame with all the Allwinner boards I have...

Is there a list of tested aarch64 systems? I am particularly looking for ones with 4GB memory and sata support.

I have never been a fan of Raspberry, and with the RPi4, you have to get at least a sata extension board. I do like it still works with 5v; 3a is no problem for me with my Anker power supply, but I suspect more will be needed once you add the sata expansion card and drive (thus whatever is in the list of other aarch64 systems should have power requirements).

Anyway, as I go back before Centos1 (I believe it was called WhiteHat), I need to go with the flow. Hard to believe Centos has managed for so long. By Centos.

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Stephen John Smoogen

4:12 p.m.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

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It is time to upgrade systems here, and it seems that arm32 has been left in the scrap heap. Shame with all the Allwinner boards I have...

Is there a list of tested aarch64 systems? I am particularly looking for ones with 4GB memory and sata support.

I have never been a fan of Raspberry, and with the RPi4, you have to get at least a sata extension board. I do like it still works with 5v; 3a is no problem for me with my Anker power supply, but I suspect more will be needed once you add the sata expansion card and drive (thus whatever is in the list of other aarch64 systems should have power requirements).

The AlmaLinux aarch64 support is going to follow the upstream support which is mainly aimed at ServerReady boards (aka Ampere, Cavium and similar server boards). Outside of that most of the work takes a lot of 'you are doing this yourself' to get working. The largest uptake for EL in Aarch64 seems to be on Amazon Graviton systems and other cloud vendors. From outside of that, the EspressoBin/Machiato https://espressobin.net/ may be the lowest amount of work.. but it is still going to be work.

...

Anyway, as I go back before Centos1 (I believe it was called WhiteHat), I need to go with the flow. Hard to believe Centos has managed for so long. By Centos.

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Robert Moskowitz

4:32 p.m.

On 2/24/22 11:12, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

It is time to upgrade systems here, and it seems that arm32 has been left in the scrap heap. Shame with all the Allwinner boards I have...

Is there a list of tested aarch64 systems? I am particularly looking for ones with 4GB memory and sata support.

I have never been a fan of Raspberry, and with the RPi4, you have to get at least a sata extension board. I do like it still works with 5v; 3a is no problem for me with my Anker power supply, but I suspect more will be needed once you add the sata expansion card and drive (thus whatever is in the list of other aarch64 systems should have power requirements).

The AlmaLinux aarch64 support is going to follow the upstream support which is mainly aimed at ServerReady boards (aka Ampere, Cavium and similar server boards).

By 'server boards', I am thinking you mean big cloud server boards?

...

Outside of that most of the work takes a lot of 'you are doing this yourself' to get working. The largest uptake for EL in Aarch64 seems to be on Amazon Graviton systems and other cloud vendors.

From outside of that, the EspressoBin/Machiato https://espressobin.net/ may be the lowest amount of work.. but it is still going to be work.

This looks like a networks switch product, given the multiple LAN interfaces? I do know of one person that has it working on a RPi4. I just don't like that I have to use an expansion card that does not seem to be native sata. Plus it is Broadcom proprietary that has been work for many an OS support team. thanks

Stephen John Smoogen

4:49 p.m.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 11:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

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On 2/24/22 11:12, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

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It is time to upgrade systems here, and it seems that arm32 has been left in the scrap heap. Shame with all the Allwinner boards I have...

Is there a list of tested aarch64 systems? I am particularly looking for ones with 4GB memory and sata support.

I have never been a fan of Raspberry, and with the RPi4, you have to get at least a sata extension board. I do like it still works with 5v; 3a is no problem for me with my Anker power supply, but I suspect more will be needed once you add the sata expansion card and drive (thus whatever is in the list of other aarch64 systems should have power requirements).

The AlmaLinux aarch64 support is going to follow the upstream support which is mainly aimed at ServerReady boards (aka Ampere, Cavium and similar server boards).

By 'server boards', I am thinking you mean big cloud server boards?

Yes things like https://www.gigabyte.com/Industry-Solutions/ampere-altra-server-solution

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Outside of that most of the work takes a lot of 'you are doing this yourself' to get working. The largest uptake for EL in Aarch64 seems to be on Amazon Graviton systems and other cloud vendors.

From outside of that, the EspressoBin/Machiato https://espressobin.net/ may be the lowest amount of work.. but it is still going to be work.

This looks like a networks switch product, given the multiple LAN interfaces?

It is the only one I know of which has native SATA. Most of the other small boards just use USB as the data bus so even if they have SATA it is a device on the USB bus.

...

I do know of one person that has it working on a RPi4. I just don't like that I have to use an expansion card that does not seem to be native sata. Plus it is Broadcom proprietary that has been work for many an OS support team.

I have them working with RPi4. It takes work to do so and to keep it running. And I don't have native SATA or even an expansion card.

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thanks

-- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren

Robert Moskowitz

5:17 p.m.

On 2/24/22 11:49, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 11:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 2/24/22 11:12, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

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Outside of that most of the work takes a lot of 'you are doing this yourself' to get working. The largest uptake for EL in Aarch64 seems to be on Amazon Graviton systems and other cloud vendors.

From outside of that, the EspressoBin/Machiato https://espressobin.net/ may be the lowest amount of work.. but it is still going to be work.

This looks like a networks switch product, given the multiple LAN interfaces?

It is the only one I know of which has native SATA. Most of the other small boards just use USB as the data bus so even if they have SATA it is a device on the USB bus.

I used Cubietech and Odroid with native sata for arm32, and sure enough both have 64bit with sata: Cubieboard6 and 7 Odroid HC4 The Odroid looks better than Cubie and at only $80 from Ameridroid https://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-hc4 and only 16w with active samba use from power benchmarks. That is important to me. I would be willing to get one for testing. I have a Odroid hc1 that was a bit of a challenge to get Centos7-arm working on it, but did.

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I do know of one person that has it working on a RPi4. I just don't like that I have to use an expansion card that does not seem to be native sata. Plus it is Broadcom proprietary that has been work for many an OS support team.

I have them working with RPi4. It takes work to do so and to keep it running. And I don't have native SATA or even an expansion card.

The person that pointed me here, has sata on his 2 RPi4.

Robert Moskowitz

25 Feb 25 Feb

12:48 a.m.

On 2/24/22 12:17, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

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On 2/24/22 11:49, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 11:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 2/24/22 11:12, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

...
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Outside of that most of the work takes a lot of 'you are doing this yourself' to get working. The largest uptake for EL in Aarch64 seems to be on Amazon Graviton systems and other cloud vendors.

From outside of that, the EspressoBin/Machiato https://espressobin.net/ may be the lowest amount of work.. but it is still going to be work.

This looks like a networks switch product, given the multiple LAN interfaces?

It is the only one I know of which has native SATA. Most of the other small boards just use USB as the data bus so even if they have SATA it is a device on the USB bus.

I used Cubietech and Odroid with native sata for arm32, and sure enough both have 64bit with sata:

Cubieboard6 and 7 Odroid HC4

The Odroid looks better than Cubie and at only $80 from Ameridroid

https://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-hc4

and only 16w with active samba use from power benchmarks. That is important to me.

I would be willing to get one for testing. I have a Odroid hc1 that was a bit of a challenge to get Centos7-arm working on it, but did.

There is hope for the Odroid HC4: https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?t=37675 This looks promising enough that I will order one; probably tomorrow.

Jonathan Wright

1:45 a.m.

Keep us posted! On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:49 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote:

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On 2/24/22 12:17, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 2/24/22 11:49, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 11:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

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On 2/24/22 11:12, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

Outside of that most of the work takes a lot of 'you are doing this

...
yourself' to get working. The largest uptake for EL in Aarch64 seems to be on Amazon Graviton systems and other cloud vendors.

From outside of that, the EspressoBin/Machiato https://espressobin.net/ may be the lowest amount of work.. but it is still going to be work.

This looks like a networks switch product, given the multiple LAN interfaces?

It is the only one I know of which has native SATA. Most of the other small boards just use USB as the data bus so even if they have SATA it is a device on the USB bus.

I used Cubietech and Odroid with native sata for arm32, and sure enough both have 64bit with sata:

Cubieboard6 and 7 Odroid HC4

The Odroid looks better than Cubie and at only $80 from Ameridroid

https://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-hc4

and only 16w with active samba use from power benchmarks. That is important to me.

I would be willing to get one for testing. I have a Odroid hc1 that was a bit of a challenge to get Centos7-arm working on it, but did.

There is hope for the Odroid HC4:

https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?t=37675

This looks promising enough that I will order one; probably tomorrow.

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